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spartan1337- 02-03-2008

Need I remind you that I pwn with a shotgun. I prefer shotgun to sheild in fact. I just use a shield cuz its fun, just to have a change of pace.. And I don't breach that much. >> Oh yeah you meant Galleon....Well i've never seen him play vegas so i wouldn't know.

Brannen- 02-04-2008

It's exatly like I said, and what skill is needed for a shotgun that fills a small hallway with pellets (or whatever is blasted apart) how many times have I surprized you on making the kill with so little shots of the P90? Not to mention how often I'm the surviving member of the team.

Night Stalker- 02-04-2008

I was never very good at shooters. I avoid them in general. Though Vegas and well 2 look fairly good.

galleon- 02-04-2008

Well you survive often because of shear luck eg: I GET KILLED BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SIDE WHERE THE DOOR WAS. Also you play the game 24/7. Whats wrong with tatics? Remember the time at paintball where I kept your death count lower than 10? Don't blame the breach charge, you brought it for a reason, your not going to waste/not use it.

Brannen- 02-04-2008

And whose fault is it that you are on the side you are? I do not play it 24/7 I work remember. Nothing is wrong with tatics Robert and I use them all the time when we play. We did when we played. And how many times have I told you not to bring the Breach charge because you wouldn't need it.

galleon- 02-04-2008

Jess, stop complaining I just played the game about 3 or 4 times, I'm not exactally use to it.

Brannen- 02-04-2008

I know that's why I don't say anything when you die or you throw a grade at me instead of reloading. But do you really have to Breach every door?

galleon- 02-04-2008

Yes, yes I do, if I didn't what would the propouse of me bringing them.

Brannen- 02-04-2008

There isn't one...thus why I tell you before hand, that you won't need them.

galleon- 02-04-2008

Oh thats what you think.

spartan1337- 02-04-2008

It's exatly like I said, and what skill is needed for a shotgun that fills a small hallway with pellets (or whatever is blasted apart) how many times have I surprized you on making the kill with so little shots of the P90? Not to mention how often I'm the surviving member of the team. Uh, I dunno. Oh, wait, how about aiming? If you miss the first shot then you are almost always dead. against the computer or online, doesn't matter. The shotgun in Vegas is much more realistic, It doesn't destroy everything on-screen, It's much more accurate then most video-game shotguns. So, if you miss the first shot then you have to pump the shotgun to load in the next shell, in which case your enemy is standing in front of you with an entire second with which to fill you with lead. You survive because you take the good spot, I get impatient and walk around till i die. I don't like waiting. Since I was impatient I wasn't thinking straight. the dude at the ladder at the streets level is a perfect example: I could have looked downstairs instead of climbing down and easily won the match for us.

galleon- 02-05-2008

You survive because you take the good spot, I get impatient and walk around till i die. I don't like waiting. Since I was impatient I wasn't thinking straight. the dude at the ladder at the streets level is a perfect example: I could have looked downstairs instead of climbing down and easily won the match for us.I thought that you were the one that used tatics better, not brannen. The shotgun is a change of pace anyways, its not useful for more than a couple of meters so you have to get in close to use it. Thats why he's more likely to die.

spartan1337- 02-06-2008

Thats just it, but theres nothing I can do if he's covering the one good place to go to, and I get frustrated easy if my choice of cover is already taken. Online, if that happens I just go my separate ways and take a different route and it almost always works out for me, but you cant dothat in terrorist hunt, you have to stick together to cover each other's backs since you're so outnumbered. I also wait for the guy who takes that cover to move but This wont work in terrorist hunt either, since enemies often come to you instead of the either way around. I'm good at doing something that the enemy wouldn't expect but that doesn't apply to offline games where all your enemies are bots. Thats why I want to face Brannen online, but apperently he just doesn't play vegas online, and my xbox is still being fixed (my sister broke it, i didnt get the ring of death, all newer 360s dont get it) So i can't really coax him into playing. Actually, thats what's realistic about it, with a little patience and good aim you can take a guy out at 40 meters with the better shotguns. The bullets dont disapear at 40 meters, they hit something, all you have to do is get a good shot in. I've taken out people from the other side of the roof on calypso Casino 4 times now, thats well over 40 meters. At about 15 meters i can almost always take out my target. This is using the 870, I dont touch the XM, That thing's range is terrible, but i think its because the barrel of that shotgun is much wider and shorter, it looks almost as if it could shoot nerf arrows. The most dangerous thing about the shotgun is having to pump it after each shot, So your left wide open if anyone around you can shoot something a little faster, and if you miss your first chance. For example, me vs. brannen, If i miss, he just p90s the hell out of me, but if i dont miss, he's well, toast. and the awful reload time (almost a shell a second, so eight shells for a full reload, it can get risky.) The saddest thing is, I'm one of the best I know with the shotgun in Vegas, but since its a different gun altogether, if you're good with it you're just using a "cheap gun" but if you're not good you just plain suck at the game altogether. Which is completely wrong, but thats how people work. :(

Brannen- 02-06-2008

you take the good spot. Do you mean not getting killed or best for killing. Dosen't matter how many times have I been Standing in the middle of a hallway or at the top of those stairs and not died. Or alll the time the shit has hit the fan and I still lived. (Dosen't always happen. I can't be perfect. People don't like me like that.)

galleon- 02-06-2008

I dont touch the XM, That thing's range is terrible, but i think its because the barrel of that shotgun is much wider and shorter, it looks almost as if it could shoot nerf arrows. That probably becaused it doesn't used a choked barrel, it probably uses an open barrel in real life. you take the good spot. Do you mean not getting killed or best for killing. Dosen't matter how many times have I been Standing in the middle of a hallway or at the top of those stairs and not died. Or alll the time the s--t has hit the fan and I still lived. (Dosen't always happen. I can't be perfect. People don't like me like that.) That because your just extreamly lucky, even in paintball, how many times has everyone else died when we all have realitivy the same cover, luck. And don't you go telling us that we suck because that just pisses us off, and it likely going to get you shot in the back next time.

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